From the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Operation HOPE, John Hope Bryant.

Your zip code is a bigger predictor of how long you’ll live than your DNA.

That’s not me talking. That’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta—practicing neurosurgeon at Emory, Emmy-winning chief medical correspondent for CNN, best-selling author, and one of the most trusted voices in medicine in America.

He joined me on Money and Wealth for a conversation I won’t soon forget.

At Operation HOPE, we mapped every zip code in America by credit score and found that you live roughly 20 years longer in a 700-credit-score neighborhood than a 500 one. When I brought that to Sanjay, he raised me one: zip code now beats genetic code. We get into the hidden tax that stress puts on all of us, rich and poor alike, why shame is the wrong response to money, weight, and addiction, and the truth I keep coming back to: hope is healing.

This is the episode I’m asking you to share.

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